This is a continuation of a remarkable thread that has now received 10,000 comments running to well over a million words. Unfortunately its size has become a problem and this is the reason for the move.

The history of the New Statesman thread goes back to December 2007 when Dr David Whitehouse wrote a very influential article for that publication posing the question Has Global Warming Stopped? Later, Mark Lynas, the magazine’s environment correspondent, wrote a furious reply, Has Global Warming Really Stopped?

By the time the New Statesman closed the blogs associated with these articles they had received just over 3000 comments, many from people who had become regular contributors to a wide-ranging discussion of the evidence for anthropogenic climate change, its implications for public policy and the economy. At that stage I provided a new home for the discussion at Harmless Sky.

Comments are now closed on the old thread. If you want to refer to comments there then it is easy to do so by left-clicking on the comment number, selecting ‘Copy Link Location’ and then setting up a link in the normal way.

Here’s to the next 10,000 comments.

Useful links:

Dr David Whitehouse’s article can be found here with 1289 comments.

Mark Lynas’ attempted refutation can be found here with 1715 comments.

The original Continuation of the New Statesman Whitehouse/Lynas blogs thread is here with 10,000 comments.

4,522 Responses to “Continuation of the New Statesman Whitehouse/Lynas blogs: Number 2”

  1. Pete,

    The average of 50 + 20 is 35……nothing else.

    Jones & Hansen are telling the world that the average is 37.

    2 + 2 = 5

    The phrase “two plus two equals five” (“2 + 2 = 5”) is a slogan used in George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four[1] as an example of an obviously false dogma one must believe, similar to other obviously false slogans by the Party in the novel. It is contrasted with the phrase “two plus two makes four”, the obvious – but politically inexpedient – truth. Orwell’s protagonist, Winston Smith, uses the phrase to wonder if the State might declare “two plus two equals five” as a fact; he ponders whether, if everybody believes in it, does that make it true? Smith writes, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.” Later in the novel, Smith attempts to use doublethink to teach himself that the statement “2 + 2 = 5” is true, or at least as true as any other answer one could come up with.

    Eventually, while undergoing electroshock torture, Winston declared that he saw five fingers when in fact he only saw four (“Four, five, six – in all honesty I don’t know”). The Inner Party interrogator of thought-criminals, O’Brien, says of the mathematically false statement that control over physical reality is unimportant; so long as one controls their own perceptions to what the Party wills, then any corporeal act is possible, in accordance with the principles of doublethink (“Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once”).[2]

  2. Max, Reur 2187:

    Looks like you are getting enmeshed into the bureaucratic gearwork of ABC.
    The answer you got to your complaint was classical “bureaucratese BS”.
    Have you read any Kafka?…

    I’ll have to grit my teeth today and listen to the podcast of Robin Williams’ interview of Bob Ward.

    A couple of questions:
    [1] Max, you did a listing of prominent scientists recently that were sceptical about alarming AGW or some aspect of “the science“. Is that handy, do you think it could be expanded, and does it have good provenance?
    I’ve just finished listening to an earlier podcast by Williams: Science Show – 2010-08-21 The science of climate change: The Australian Academy of Science has produced a booklet summarizing our understanding of climate science. The aim is to provide the public with an authoritative source of information from those who work in the field. Also Eureka awards…

    Amongst other things in the talk about it, and the following Eureka Awards, anyone that is not in agreement with “the scientists” is described as a denier and flat earther etc, no mention of uncertainties in models, no mention of MWA, etc.

    [2] I had a Google around on Bob Ward, whom I’ve seen described as a policy advisor. Does anyone know if he has an appropriate scientific background? …. I failed to find anything.

    My local library has both “the castle” and “the trial”, several other titles, and even books about Kafka. I’ll have to check them out, thanks.

  3. Brute,

    I notice from Max’s bar chart in 2195 that the records of the satellite temperature records from the UAH, (Spencer, Christy &Co) have twice as much adjustment as either Hadley or GISS.

    Aren’t they the ones you trust the most?

    Have you asked them why so much?

    I must say that I don’t know for sure all the details of how these figures are adjusted. Ideally, I agree that the temperature figures shouldn’t be changed retrospectively. But, on the other hand, if new information becomes available then it’s probably better that it is included rather than just ignored. Either way, you guys are going to scream “fraud”.

    I do know that for sure.

  4. Brute,

    I notice from Max’s bar chart in 2195 that the records of the satellite temperature records from the UAH, (Spencer, Christy &Co) have twice as much adjustment as either Hadley or GISS.

    Aren’t they the ones you trust the most?

    Have you asked them why so much?

    I must say that I don’t know for sure all the details of how these figures are adjusted. Ideally, I agree that the temperature figures shouldn’t be changed retrospectively. But, on the other hand, if new information becomes available then it’s probably better that it is included rather than just ignored. Either way, you guys are going to scream “fraud”.

    I do know that for sure.

  5. Tony N, Max, et al: further my 2202 concerning my complaint to the Oz ABC, cousin of BBC;

    I’ve advised my intention to make a formal complaint @ Corporate_Affairs13.ABC@abc.net.au;
    With detail probably available within a few days.
    Meanwhile, I’ve also made the following pre-emptive enquiry:

    Dear Kirstin,
    Further to my Email of earlier today, same subject:
    Could you please advise how many scientists you have in your department, and how many lawyers.
    Also, or if you prefer, the proportion of each that may be resourced to my complaint.
    Your response has a bearing on just how I explain the bias that is very evident to me as a professional engineer. (that is a branch of applied science)

    Regards…[annat]

    I’ll also enquire shortly if their “6-month statute of limitations”, would apply if they give a decision that I would wish to challenge by e.g. providing additional evidence previously excluded for brevity, beyond that 6 months of the origin of the matter being the subject of my complaint. My quandary is that I currently don’t want to swamp them with too much evidence, that may slow things too much.

  6. PeterM

    You wrote to Brute (2204):

    I notice from Max’s bar chart in 2195 that the records of the satellite temperature records from the UAH, (Spencer, Christy &Co) have twice as much adjustment as either Hadley or GISS.

    Sorry, Peter, you notice wrong. There was no “adjustment” made, except to the Hadley record.

    Look at the chart more closely.

    You will see that only Hadley has two comparisons (original and revised). Let me explain what this means.

    Hadley originally showed Jan-Apr 2008 values that were 0.16C lower than the average values for Jan-Apr over the preceding seven years (2001-2007). This was similar to what was recorded by NCDC at the surface, but only roughly half of the cooling observed in the troposphere by RSS and UAH (0.33C). So the troposphere apparently had more cooling in 2008 compared to previous years than the surface.

    After Hadley “corrected” the Jan-Apr 2008 record, half of the observed cooling miraculously disappeared. Now Jan-Apr 2008 was only 0.08C cooler than Jan-Apr 2001-2007.

    The “adjustment” made after the fact by Hadley is the difference between the “orig” and “rev”. It makes the 2008 cooling look less significant (as well as the annually averaged figure, of course).

    Got it?

    Max

    PS When I pointed this out on ClimateAudit, a blogger named “Phil” replied with a couple of mails talking about “variance adjustments, data coming in late, etc.”, but did not give a good explanation of what really could have happened to cause this major after-the-fact shift.

  7. Max,

    OK I may have misunderstood what you were meaning with your graph. But I just wonder if there is anything special about the first few months of 2008. If you’d taken another 4 months would the same story emerge? Or have you just cherry picked these to try to prove a point?

    UAH like anyone else modify their data after its initial release. I’m not criticising them for that. If they’ve made an error, or new data becomes available, it is the right thing to do. See:
    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/04/correction-to-uah-v5-3-global-gridpoint-temperature-dataset/

  8. Bob_FJ

    You asked (2202):

    Max, you did a listing of prominent scientists recently that were sceptical about alarming AGW or some aspect of “the science“. Is that handy, do you think it could be expanded, and does it have good provenance?

    First to the provenance.

    It started out with a list compiled by none other than “Eli Rabett”, with which he attempted to “shoot down” the testimony of U.S. Senator Inhofe (that many scientists and meteorologists were skeptical of one or another aspect of the premise leading to the conclusion that AGW represents a serious threat). Rabett’s (failed) argument was that most of those listed by Inhofe were not “qualified” to have an opinion on AGW (as he obviously felt he, himself, was).

    I went through the list and removed those names that I could not clearly identify as “qualified”. Then I added names of scientists (and meteorologists) who were “qualified” to have a valid opinion on some aspect of the “dangerous AGW” hypothesis that Rabett (and Inhofe) had not listed, ending up with 280 names: 220 scientists and 60 meteorologists (compared to a total of more than 400 on Inhofe’s list).

    The number before each name is the number on Rabett’s list (if there is no number, the name was not shown on Rabett’s list)

    Here’s the list:

    — Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov, mathematician and astronomer, head of Space Research for the Pulkovo Observatory in Russia
    — Dr. Steve Ackerman, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Wisconsin
    3. Alexandre Aguiar Meteorologist of Brazil’s MetSul Weather Center
    — Göran Ahlgren, docent organisk kemi, general secretary of the Stockholm Initiative, Professor of Organic Chemistry, Stockholm, Sweden
    — Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia Geologist at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
    5. Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu, the former director of both University of Alaska Fairbanks’ Geophysical Institute and International Arctic Research Center
    6. David Aldrich Meteorologist TV Philadelphia
    — J.R. Alexander, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Civil Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa; Member, UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000, Pretoria, South Africa.
    9. Dr. Claude Allegre, French Geophysicist
    10. Chris Allen Meteorologist of Kentucky Fox affiliate WBKO
    — Bjarne Andresen, PhD, dr. scient, physicist, published and presents on the impossibility of a “global temperature”, Professor, The Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
    14. Dr. August H. Auer (deceased), past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming, previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand
    18. Donald G. Baker of the University of Minnesota
    21. Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.
    22. Timothy F. Ball, PhD, environmental consultant, former climatology professor, University of Winnipeg, Canada
    — Douglas W. Barr, BS (Meteorology, University of Chicago), BS and MS (Civil Engineering, University of Minnesota), Barr Engineering Co. (environmental issues and water resources), Minnesota, U.S.A.
    — Romuald Bartnik, PhD (Organic Chemistry), Professor Emeritus, Former chairman of the Department of Organic and Applied Chemistry, climate work in cooperation with Department of Hydrology and Geological Museum, University of Lodz, Lodz, Poland
    — Colin Barton, B.Sc., PhD, Earth Science, Principal research scientist (retd), Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    25. Vladimir Bashkirtsev, of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
    — Joe Bastardi, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist, State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
    27. Dr. Franco Battaglia, a professor of Environmental Chemistry at the University of Modena in Italy
    30. Paul G. Becker, a former chief meteorologist with the Air Force and former Colorado Springs chapter president of the American Meteorological Society.
    —Dr. David Bellamy, professor of Geography at University of Nottingham
    33. Justin Berk, BS in meteorology from Cornell
    34. Andre and Sally Bernier Meteorologists of WJW-TV, in Cleveland, Ohio. Andre has a BS in Meteorology from Lyndon State College,
    — M. I. Bhat, Professor & Head, Department of Geology & Geophysics, University of Kashmir, Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, India
    35. Dr. Edward F. Blick, Professor of Meteorology and Engineering at University of Oklahoma
    — Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, Reader, Department of Geography, University of Hull, UK, Editor, Energy & Environment.
    42. Daniel Botkin, President of the Center for the Study of the Environment and Professor Emeritus in the department of Ecology, Evolution, and Marine Biology at the University of California
    44. Dr. Simon Brassell, of the Department of Geological Sciences at the Indiana University
    — William D. Braswell, computer scientist, Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville, Huntsville, Alabama
    48. Bob Breck Chief Meteorologist of WVUE-TV in New Orleans
    — Dr. Paal Brekke – Solar Physicist, specialist in sun/UV radiation/Sun-Earth Connection, affiliated with the University of Oslo, Norway.
    — Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review
    — Dr. David Bromwich, head of Polar Meteorology at Byrd Polar Research Center
    — Stephen C. Brown, PhD (Environmental Science, State University of New York), District Agriculture Agent, Assistant Professor, University of Alaska Fairbanks, Ground Penetrating Radar Glacier research, Palmer, Alaska, U.S.A.
    53. Dr. Reid Bryson (deceased), the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin (now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences)
    — Dr. Phil Chapman, Geophysicist, astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, served as staff physicist at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology)
    — Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., Arctic Animal Behavioural Ecologist, wildlife biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic regions, Alberta, Canada
    57. Dr. Robert.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia. He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist
    59. Dr. Christopher L. Castro, a Professor of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona **
    — Dr. Arthur V. Chadwick, PhD, Geologist, dendrochronology (analyzing tree rings to determine past climate) lecturing, Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, Texas, U.S.A.
    — George V. Chilingar, PhD, Member, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow President, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, U.S.A. Section, Emeritus Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    61. Tom Chisholm Chief Meteorologist of WMTW ABC Portland, Maine
    62. Dr. John Christy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville and NASA
    63. Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax
    65. Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
    69. John Coleman, Meteorologist Founder of The Weather Channel
    71. Joseph Conklin Meteorologist
    72. Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.
    — Piers Corbyn, MSc (Physics (Imperial College London)), ARCS, FRAS, FRMetS, astrophysicist (Queen Mary College, London), consultant, founder WeatherAction long range forecasters, London, United Kingdom
    — Allan Cortese, meteorological researcher and spotter for the National Weather Service, retired computer professional, Billerica, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    76. Dr. William R. Cotton of the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University
    78. Richard S. Courtney, PhD, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC peer reviewer, Founding Member of the European Science and Environment Forum, UK
    — Susan Crockford, PhD (Zoology/Evolutionary Biology/Archaeozoology), Adjunct Professor (Anthropology/Faculty of Graduate Studies), University of Victoria, Victoria, British Colombia, Canada
    81. Grant Dade Texas TV’s KLTV, a member of both the American Meteorological Society and the National Weather Association,
    82. Joseph D’Aleo served as the first Director of Meteorology at The Weather Channel and was the Chief Meteorologist at Weather Services International Corporation and served as chairman of the American Meteorological Society’s (AMS) Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting.
    83. Dr. Robert E. Davis, a Professor at University of Virginia, a former UN IPCC contributor and past president of the Association of American Geographers
    84. Luc Debontridder, Climatologist at the Belgium Weather Institute’s Royal Meteorological Institute (RMI)
    — Willem de Lange, MSc (Hons), DPhil (Computer and Earth Sciences), Senior Lecturer in Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, Hamilton, New Zealand
    85. David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts and Sciences, University of Oklahoma, U.S.
    — James DeMeo, PhD (University of Kansas 1986, Earth/Climate Science), now in Private Research, Ashland, Oregon, U.S.A.
    — James E Dent; B.Sc., FCIWEM, C.Met, FRMetS, C.Env., Independent Consultant, Member of WMO OPACHE Group on Flood Warning, Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
    — Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, Environmental Scientist and founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group
    — Dr. Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University in Omaha, Nebraska
    89. Dr. David Douglass professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Rochester
    91. Robert W. Durrenberger, PhD, former Arizona State Climatologist and President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor Emeritus of Geography, Arizona State University; Sun City, Arizona, U.S.A.
    — Freeman Dyson, professor of Physics at the Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton
    94. Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western Washington University, U.S.
    100. Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.
    102. Gary England, Meteorologist who pioneered the use of Doppler radar weather-forecasting
    103. Hans Erren, Doctorandus, geophysicist and climate specialist, Sittard, The Netherlands
    — Dr. Chris Essex, Professor of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario – focuses on underlying physics/math to complex climate systems.
    106. Bill Evans New York’s WABC-TV Senior Meteorologist
    107. Dr. Cal Evans, Geochemist a prominent researcher who has advised the Alberta Research Council, the Natural Sciences, and Engineering Research Council of Canada
    — Dr. David Evans, worked for the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005, building the carbon accounting model that Australia uses to track carbon in its biosphere for the purposes of the Kyoto Protocol. He is a mathematician and engineer, with six university degrees including a PhD from Stanford University.
    111. Dr. John T. Everett, a former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) administrator and UN IPCC lead author and reviewer
    — Sören Floderus, PhD (Physical Geography (Uppsala University)), coastal-environment specialization, Copenhagen, Denmark
    116. Dr. Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center
    — Dr. Patrick Frank, Chemist
    117. Stewart Franks, PhD, Associate Professor, Hydroclimatologist, University of Newcastle, Australia
    118. Dr. Oliver W. Frauenfeld, research scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences Division of Cryospheric and Polar Processes at the University of Colorado
    119. Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.
    120. Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen is the director of the Danish National Space Centre
    122. Ivan Frolov, the head of Russia’s Science and Research Institute of Arctic and Antarctic Regions
    — Gordon Fulks, PhD (Physics, University of Chicago), cosmic radiation, solar wind, electromagnetic and geophysical phenomena, Corbett, Oregon, U.S.A.
    124. Dr. Serge Galam, director of research at the National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS) and member of a laboratory of Ecole Polytechnique
    127. R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai’i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology, University of Hawaii at Manoa
    — Dr. David Gee, Geologist and chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, currently at Uppsala University in Sweden
    129. Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas; former director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey
    — Dr. Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Institute Professor at Rensselaer (RPI) in Troy, New York
    131. Dr. Robert Giegengack the chair of Department of Earth and Environmental Science at the University of Pennsylvania
    136. Dick Goddard Ohio meteorologists TV
    — Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adj Professor, Royal Institute of Technology (Mech, Eng.), Secretary General KTH International Climate Seminar 2006 and Climate analyst and member of NIPCC, Lidingö, Sweden
    — Stanley B. Goldenberg Atmospheric Scientist at the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA
    139. Dr. Mel Goldstein, a PhD Meteorologist on Connecticut’s TV News Channel 8
    140. Sergei Golubchikov, Vice President of Russia’s National Geocryological Foundation
    — Wayne Goodfellow, PhD (Earth Science), Ocean Evolution, Paleoenvironments, Adjunct Professor, Senior Research Scientist, University of Ottawa, Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    143. Brian van de Graaff Meteorologist TV
    — Thomas B. Gray, MS, Meteorology, Retired, USAF, Yachats, Oregon, U.S.A.
    144. Vincent Gray, PhD, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of ‘Climate Change 2001,’ Wellington, New Zealand
    145. Dr. William Gray, Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU)
    — Dr. Kenneth Green, Chief Scientist, Fraser Institute, Vancouver, BC – expert reviewer for the IPCC 2001 Working Group I science report.
    149. Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo – Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
    150. Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta
    152. Jeff Halblaub Senior Meteorologist of WSI Corporation
    — Charles B. Hammons, PhD (Applied Mathematics), systems/software engineering, modeling & simulation, design, Consultant, Coyle, Oklahoma, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of Physics at Princeton University and Former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy
    156. Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut
    — Ross Hays, Atmospheric Scientist, NASA Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility, Palestine, Texas, U.S.A.
    — Wilco Hazeleger, a senior scientist in the global climate research group at Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institure
    — James A. Heimbach, Jr., BA Physics (Franklin and Marshall College), Master’s and PhD in Meteorology (Oklahoma University), Prof. Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences (University of North Carolina at Asheville), Springvale, Maine, U.S.A.
    161. Dr. Ben Herman, past director of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics and Head of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona,
    — Dr. Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, researcher in the Institute of Geophysics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
    162. Dr. Martin Hertzberg, a retired Navy meteorologist with a PhD in physical chemistry
    — David Holland, member of the UK’s Institution of Engineering and Technology. Trained and qualified as an electrical engineer, he worked in the computer industry from 1970. He has followed the scientific debate over the human contribution to global warming for many years, and given evidence on it to the House of Lords and Stern Review.
    168. Art Horn, Meteorologist currently operating The ‘Art’ Of the Weather business
    169. Douglas V. Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland 2
    170. Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth
    — Ole Humlum, PhD, Professor, Department of Physical Geography, Institute of Geosciences, University of Oslo, Oslo, Norway
    — Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Climate Change
    173. Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, AZ, USA
    175. Dr. Olafur Ingolfsson, a professor from the University of Iceland
    — Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist and UN IPCC Scientist
    176. Yury Izrael, the director of Global Climate and Ecology Institute, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and UN IPCC Vice President,
    — Terri Jackson, MSc MPhil., Director, Independent Climate Research Group, Northern Ireland and London (Founder of the Energy Group at the Institute of Physics, London), U.K.
    — Albert F. Jacobs, Geol.Drs., P. Geol., Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    179. Craig James, Chief Meteorologist of a Michigan NBC TV affiliate
    — Dr. Hans Jelbring – Wind/Climate specialist, Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit, Stockholm University, Sweden. Currently, Manager Inventex Aqua Research Institute, Stockholm.
    181. Meteorologist Mark Johnson
    — Terrell Johnson, B.S. (Zoology), M.S. (Wildlife & Range Resources, Air & Water Quality), Principal Environmental Engineer, Certified Wildlife Biologist, Green River, Wyoming, U.S.A.
    — Bill Kappel, BS (Physical Science-Geology), BS (Meteorology), Storm Analysis, Climatology, Operation Forecasting, Vice President/Senior Meteorologist, Applied Weather Associates, LLC, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, U.S.A.
    186. Olavi Kärner, Ph.D., Research Associate, Dept. of Atmospheric Physics, Institute of Astrophysics and Atmospheric Physics, Toravere, Estonia
    193. Madhav Khandekar, PhD, former Research Scientist Environment Canada; Editor “Climate Research” (03-05); Editorial Board Member “Natural Hazards, IPCC Expert Reviewer 2007
    — Leonid F. Khilyuk, PhD, Science Secretary, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Professor of Engineering
    195. William Kininmonth M.Sc., M.Admin., former head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for Climatology
    197. Paul Knight Penn State Climatologist **
    198. Dr. James P. Koermer, a Professor of Meteorology and the director of the Meteorological Institute at Plymouth State University
    — Prof. Dr. Kirill Ya. Kondratyev, Academician, Counsellor RAS, Research Centre for Ecological Safety, Russian Academy of Sciences and Nansen International Environmental and Remote Sensing Centre, St.-Petersburg, Russia.
    — Jasper Kirkby, experimental particle physicist at CERN, author or co-author of some 250 scientific publications
    202. Dr. Gerhard Kramm of the Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska Fairbanks
    — Gary Kubat, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), professional meteorologist last 18 years, O’Fallon, Illinois, U.S.A
    204. Dr. George Kukla, a research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University 2
    — Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
    206. Dr. A.T.J. de Laat, who specialized in atmospheric composition and climate research at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
    — Dr. Peter Landesman, PhD in Mathematics from City College of New York, specialized in solving complex differential equations and author of The Mathematics of Global Warming
    208. Dr. Christopher W. Landsea NOAA’s National Hurricane Center who served as a UN IPCC
    209. Willem de Lange, PhD, Dept. of Earth and Ocean Sciences, School of Science and Engineering, Waikato University, New Zealand
    212. Douglas Leahey, PhD, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary, Canada
    213. David R. Legates, PhD, Director, Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware, U.S.
    — Jay Lehr, BEng (Princeton), PhD (environmental science and ground water hydrology), Science Director, The Heartland Institute, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.
    217. Marcel Leroux, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS
    — Edward Liebsch, BS (Earth Science & Chemistry), MS (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University), Senior Air Quality Scientist, HDR Inc., Maple Grove, MN, U.S.A.
    220. Richard S. Lindzen, PhD, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, U.S— Peter Link, BS, MS, PhD (Geology, Climatology), Geol/Paleoclimatology, retired, Active in Geol-paleoclimatology, Tulsa University and Industry, Evergreen, Colorado, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Philip Lloyd, Nuclear Physicist and Chemical Engineer and UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author
    — Dr. Craig Loehle is Principal Scientist with the National Council or Air and Stream Improvement (NCASI). His research interests include ecological modeling, landscape ecology, life history theory, and natural resource management. He is the author of over 100 scientific publications.
    223. A.J. Tom van Loon, PhD, Professor of Geology (Quaternary Geology), Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan, Poland; former President of the European Association of Science Editors
    226. Anthony R. Lupo, PhD, Associate Professor of Atmospheric Science, Dept. of Soil, Environmental, and Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri-Columbia, U.S.
    228. Horst Malberg, PhD, Professor for Meteorology and Climatology, Institut für Meteorologie, Berlin, Germany
    229. Rob Marciano CNN Meteorologist
    230. Dr. Richard Mackey Statistician authored a 2007 peer-reviewed study which found that the solar system regulates the earth’s climate. The paper was published August 17, 2007 in the Journal of Coastal Research
    233. Augusto Mangini of the University of Heidelberg in Germany 2
    — Björn Malmgren, PhD, Professor Emeritus in Marine Geology, Paleoclimate Science, Goteborg University, retired, Norrtälje, Sweden
    234. Galina Mashnich of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences,
    236. John Maunder, PhD, Climatologist, former President of the Commission for Climatology of the World Meteorological Organization (89-97), New Zealand 2
    237. Alister McFarquhar, PhD, international economist, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K. 2
    238. Peter McGurk, Senior Meteorologist with WSI Corporation, a provider of weather-driven business solutions to such clients as CNN, FOX, NBC, American Airlines, Delta, and FedEX
    243. Bill Meck, Chief Meteorologist for an NBC affiliate
    247. Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences and Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Canada
    248. Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, research professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia 2
    249. Dr. Daniel W. Miles, a former professor of physics who earned his PhD from the University of Utah
    — Ferenc Mark Miskolczi, PhD, atmospheric physicist, formerly of NASA’s Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Asmunn Moene, Former head of the National Forecasting Center, Meteorological Institute, Oslo, Norway
    254. H. Michael Mogil, a 30-year veteran of NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), who is certified by the American Metrological Society and currently owns the “How the Weatherworks” consulting firm
    261. Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.
    262. Dr. Dick Morgan, former director of Canada’s Met/Oceano Policy and Plans, a marine meteorologist and a climate researcher at both Exeter University and the Bedford Institute of Oceanography
    17. Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden
    263. Lubos Motl, PhD, physicist, former Harvard string theorist, Charles University, Prague, Czech Republic
    266. Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia’s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
    — Dr. Nasif Nahle, Scientific Research Director of Biology Cabinet Organization. Residencial El Roble, San Nicolas de los Garza, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
    — Robert Neff, M.S. (Meteorology, St Louis University), Weather Officer, USAF; Contractor support to NASA Meteorology Satellites, Retired, Camp Springs, Maryland, U.S.A.
    — John Nicol, PhD, Physics, (Retired) James Cook University, Chairman – Australian Climate Science Coalition, Brisbane, Australia
    269. Mark Nolan Meteorologist TV
    270. Gary Novak Microbiologist
    271. Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc., Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, former chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa, Canada 2
    272. James J. O’Brien, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Meteorology and Oceanography, Florida State University, U.S.
    — Peter Oliver, BSc (Geology), BSc (Hons, Geochemistry & Geophysics), MSc (Geochemistry), PhD (Geology), specialized in NZ quaternary glaciations, Geochemistry and Paleomagnetism, previously research scientist for the NZ Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
    274. Cliff Ollier, PhD, Professor Emeritus (Geology), Research Fellow, University of Western Australia
    277. Jim Ott, Meteorologist formerly of WTMJ-TV in Wisconsin
    279. Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem 2
    280. Morgan Meteorologist Palmer of Texas TV’s KLTV
    281. Garth W. Paltridge, PhD, atmospheric physicist, Emeritus Professor and former Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
    282. R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Canada
    — James A. Peden, Atmospheric physicist formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
    284. Al Pekarek, PhD, Associate Professor of Geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, Minnesota, U.S.
    285. Dr. Roger Pielke, Sr., presently senior scientist at the University of Colorado in Boulder
    286. Ian Plimer, PhD, Professor of Geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide and Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia
    — Dr. Roger Pocklington, Ocean/Climate Consultant, F.C.I.C., Researcher – Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Nova Scotia.
    — Daniel Joseph Pounder, BS (Meteorology, University of Oklahoma), MS (Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign); Weather Forecasting, Meteorologist, WILL AM/FM/TV, the public broadcasting station of the University of Illinois, Urbana, U.S.A.
    287. Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology, Sedimentology, University of Saskatchewan, Canada
    290. Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology
    — Tom Quirk, MSc (Melbourne), D Phil, MA (Oxford), SMP (Harvard), Member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Australian Climate Science Coalition, Member Board Institute of Public Affairs, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    293. VK Raina, India’s leading Glaciologist
    294. Dr. Denis G. Rancourt, Professor of Physics and an Environmental Science researcher at the University of Ottawa,
    296. Bernie Rayno, Senior Meteorologist with AccuWeather
    298. William E. Reifsnyder Meteorologist Forestry
    299. Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)
    306. Erich Roeckner of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology
    308. R.G. Roper, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology, U.S
    — Curt Rose, BA, MA (University of Western Ontario), MA, PhD (Clark University), Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Studies and Geography, Bishop’s University, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
    312. Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, B.C., Canada 2.
    313. Arthur T. “Terry” Safford III, Meteorologist a retired Lt Col. of the U.S. Air Force
    319. Mark Scirto Chief Meteorologist of Texas TV’s KLTV,
    322. Bruce Schwoegler, former U.S. Navy meteorologist and Boston broadcast meteorologist
    325. Tom V. Segalstad, PhD, (Geology/Geochemistry), Head of the Geological Museum and Associate Professor of Resource and Environmental Geology, University of Oslo, Norway
    326. Dr. Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    327. Gary D. Sharp, PhD, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, CA, U.S.
    328. Dr. Nir Shaviv, one of Israel’s top, young, award-winning scientists
    329. Glen Shaw, a Professor of Physics at the Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska Fairbanks
    — Dr. Joanne Simpson, Atmospheric Scientist and PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
    336. S. Fred Singer, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia and former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service 4
    — Dr. Vaclav Smil, FRSC, Distinguished Professor of Geography; specialization in climate and CO2, University of Manitoba.
    — Hajo Smit, Meteorologist and former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
    — Dr. G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s CSIRO
    341. Dr. Joe Sobel of Accuweather, winner of the American Meteorological Society 2005 Award for Broadcaster of the Year
    342. Dr. Willie Soon Harvard-Smithsonian Center Astrophysicist.
    343. Dr. Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences 2
    344. James Spann Meteorologist of Alabama ABC TV
    345. Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville, U.S. 3
    346. Chief Meteorologist Karl Spring of Duluth, Minnesota, who is certified by both the American Meteorological Society and the National Weather Association
    — Walter Starck, PhD (Biological Oceanography), marine biologist (specialization in coral reefs and fisheries), author, photographer, Townsville, Australia
    350. Bill Steffen Meteorologist of Grand Rapids, Michigan
    351. Herb Stevens, Meteorologist one of the original meteorologists at The Weather Channel
    352. Dr. Hans von Storch, the Director of Institute for Coastal Research of the GKSS Research Centre, a professor at the Meteorological Institute of the University of Hamburg (deceased)
    — Arlin Super, PhD (Meteorology), former Professor of Meteorology at Montana State University, retired Research Meteorologist, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Saint Cloud, Minnesota, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London 354. Henrik Svensmark Danish National Space Centre
    — Dr. Gordon Swaters, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University ofAlberta
    356. Dr. Elwynn Taylor, Professor of Meteorology at Iowa State University and a former project scientist with the National Aeronautics and Space Administratio**
    357. Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists
    — Dr. Peter Taylor, environmental science analyst (formerly for UN), author of “Chill – an assessment of global warming theory”
    360. Hendrik Tennekes, PhD, former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
    363. Tim Thornton, who holds degrees in Meteorology and Computer Science, pub -lishes the website “The Global Warming Heretic.
    — Frank Tipler, PhD, Professor of Mathematical Physics, astrophysics, Tulane University, New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.A
    — Edward M. Tomlinson, MS (Meteorology), Ph.D. (Meteorology, University of Utah), President, Applied Weather Associates, LLC (leader in extreme rainfall storm analyses),
    — Dr. Eduardo Tonni, Paleontologist of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata
    369. Anton Uriarte, a professor of Physical Geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain
    371. Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria
    372. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD, geologist and paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand
    373. Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa
    —Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
    374. Dr. Chris Walcek is a professor at the University at Albany in NY and a Senior Research Associate at the Atmospheric Sciences Research Center
    — Gösta Walin, PhD in Theoretical physics, Professor emeritus in oceanography, Earth Science Center, Göteborg University, Göteborg, Sweden
    378. Dr. Fred Ward, who earned his PhD in Meteorology from MIT and is a former meteorologist for Boston TV
    380. Anthony Watts, former meteorologist for KHSL-TV, a CBS-TV affiliate
    381. Charles L. Wax, PhD (physical geography: climatology, LSU), State Climatologist – Mississippi, past President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor, Department of Geosciences, Mississippi State University, U.S.A.
    382. Dan Webster, Ohio meteorologists
    — Dr. Bruce West, A U.S Army Chief Scientist
    — Forese-Carlo Wezel, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Stratigraphy (global and Mediterranean geology, mass biotic extinctions and paleoclimatology), University of Urbino, Urbino, Italy
    385. Chuck Wiese Meteorologist
    389. Kevin Williams Meteorologist of the New York based WEATHER-TRACK and Chief Meteorologist at WHEC-TV in Rochester
    390. Dr. Richard C. Willson of Columbia University’s Center for Climate Systems Research
    391. Dr. Ian Wilson of the University of Southern Queensland, Australia, specializes in statistical analysis and astrophysics research, and was a former operations astronomer at the Hubble Space Telescope Institute in Baltimore, MD
    393. Boris Winterhalter, PhD, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland
    396. David E. Wojick, PhD, P.Eng., UN IPCC Expert Reviewer, energy consultant, Virginia, U.S.
    — Dr. Rafael Wust, Professor Marine Geology/Sedimentology, James Cook University
    — Dr. Miklós Zágoni, Physicist and environmental researcher
    404. Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics at the University of Bologna in Italy
    — Stan Zlochen, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), USAF (retired), Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A.
    405. Dr. Jeff Zweerink of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA)

    Interestingly, I once challenged our friend, PeterM, to show that a “vast majority” of scientists endorsed the “dangerous AGW” premise, by providing me a list of at least 3 times this many names of “qualified” scientists and meteorologists who had stated that they support the premise that AGW is a serious threat.

    Obviously he could not provide such a list (because it does not exist).

    Max

  9. PeterM

    The first 4 months of 2008 showed major cooling as compared to the same 4 months of previous years.

    All records showed this major cooling, with the satellite records showing around twice the cooling as the surface records.

    The Hadley record was subsequently “corrected”.

    After “correction”, it only showed half as much cooling as before, also only half as much cooling as the other surface record, and one fourth as much cooling as the two satellite records showed.

    The net difference of 0.08C over 4 months means a difference of 0.02C in the annual average.

    This does not sound like a lot, but we are talking about very small annual changes in temperature in any case.

    Peter, this is just one example of “after the fact” adjustment which made warming look more pronounced (or in this case cooling less pronounced) than it looked before adjustment.

    The other example I cited is based on the annual Hadley record. It resulted in an ex post facto shift from net cooling over the period 1998-2008 to net warming.

    A big deal in itself?

    Not really. Along with the Climategate revelations, this is just another nail in the coffin of the credibility of the surface temperature record, as pointed out earlier.

    Max

  10. I notice from Max’s bar chart in 2195 that the records of the satellite temperature records from the UAH, (Spencer, Christy &Co) have twice as much adjustment as either Hadley or GISS.

    Pete,

    Spencer, Christy & Company are not pressuring governments to impose heavy taxation and forced, mandatory reductions in energy use.

    Last I checked, Spencer hasn’t advocated marching “non-believers” into re-education centers or blowing up people…….

  11. Bob_FJ

    Looks like the system had a problem with the size of my reply (2208) to your request (2202).

    Will break into pieces and resend.

    Max

  12. Bob_FJ

    [Part 1 of 3 parts]

    You asked (2202):

    Max, you did a listing of prominent scientists recently that were sceptical about alarming AGW or some aspect of “the science“. Is that handy, do you think it could be expanded, and does it have good provenance?

    First to the provenance.

    It started out with a list compiled by none other than “Eli Rabett”, with which he attempted to “shoot down” the testimony of U.S. Senator Inhofe (that many scientists and meteorologists were skeptical of one or another aspect of the premise leading to the conclusion that AGW represents a serious threat). Rabett’s (failed) argument was that most of those listed by Inhofe were not “qualified” to have an opinion on AGW (as he obviously felt he, himself, was).

    I went through the list and removed those names that I could not clearly identify as “qualified”. Then I added names of “qualified” scientists (and meteorologists) that Rabett (and Inhofe) had not listed, ending up with 280 names: 220 scientists and 60 meteorologists (compared to a total of more than 400 on Inhofe’s list).

    The number before each name is the number on Rabett’s list (if there is no number, the name was not shown on Rabett’s list)

    Here’s the list:

    — Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov, mathematician and astronomer, head of Space Research for the Pulkovo Observatory in Russia
    — Dr. Steve Ackerman, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Wisconsin
    3. Alexandre Aguiar Meteorologist of Brazil’s MetSul Weather Center
    — Göran Ahlgren, docent organisk kemi, general secretary of the Stockholm Initiative, Professor of Organic Chemistry, Stockholm, Sweden
    — Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia Geologist at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
    5. Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu, the former director of both University of Alaska Fairbanks’ Geophysical Institute and International Arctic Research Center
    6. David Aldrich Meteorologist TV Philadelphia
    — J.R. Alexander, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Civil Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa; Member, UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000, Pretoria, South Africa.
    9. Dr. Claude Allegre, French Geophysicist
    10. Chris Allen Meteorologist of Kentucky Fox affiliate WBKO
    — Bjarne Andresen, PhD, dr. scient, physicist, published and presents on the impossibility of a “global temperature”, Professor, The Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
    14. Dr. August H. Auer (deceased), past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming, previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand
    18. Donald G. Baker of the University of Minnesota
    21. Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.
    22. Timothy F. Ball, PhD, environmental consultant, former climatology professor, University of Winnipeg, Canada
    — Douglas W. Barr, BS (Meteorology, University of Chicago), BS and MS (Civil Engineering, University of Minnesota), Barr Engineering Co. (environmental issues and water resources), Minnesota, U.S.A.
    — Romuald Bartnik, PhD (Organic Chemistry), Professor Emeritus, Former chairman of the Department of Organic and Applied Chemistry, climate work in cooperation with Department of Hydrology and Geological Museum, University of Lodz, Lodz, Poland
    — Colin Barton, B.Sc., PhD, Earth Science, Principal research scientist (retd), Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    25. Vladimir Bashkirtsev, of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
    — Joe Bastardi, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist, State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
    27. Dr. Franco Battaglia, a professor of Environmental Chemistry at the University of Modena in Italy
    30. Paul G. Becker, a former chief meteorologist with the Air Force and former Colorado Springs chapter president of the American Meteorological Society.
    —Dr. David Bellamy, professor of Geography at University of Nottingham
    33. Justin Berk, BS in meteorology from Cornell
    34. Andre and Sally Bernier Meteorologists of WJW-TV, in Cleveland, Ohio. Andre has a BS in Meteorology from Lyndon State College,
    — M. I. Bhat, Professor & Head, Department of Geology & Geophysics, University of Kashmir, Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, India
    35. Dr. Edward F. Blick, Professor of Meteorology and Engineering at University of Oklahoma
    — Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, Reader, Department of Geography, University of Hull, UK, Editor, Energy & Environment.
    42. Daniel Botkin, President of the Center for the Study of the Environment and Professor Emeritus in the department of Ecology, Evolution, and Marine Biology at the University of California
    44. Dr. Simon Brassell, of the Department of Geological Sciences at the Indiana University
    — William D. Braswell, computer scientist, Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville, Huntsville, Alabama
    48. Bob Breck Chief Meteorologist of WVUE-TV in New Orleans
    — Dr. Paal Brekke – Solar Physicist, specialist in sun/UV radiation/Sun-Earth Connection, affiliated with the University of Oslo, Norway.
    — Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review
    — Dr. David Bromwich, head of Polar Meteorology at Byrd Polar Research Center
    — Stephen C. Brown, PhD (Environmental Science, State University of New York), District Agriculture Agent, Assistant Professor, University of Alaska Fairbanks, Ground Penetrating Radar Glacier research, Palmer, Alaska, U.S.A.
    53. Dr. Reid Bryson (deceased), the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin (now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences)
    — Dr. Phil Chapman, Geophysicist, astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, served as staff physicist at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology)
    — Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., Arctic Animal Behavioural Ecologist, wildlife biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic regions, Alberta, Canada
    57. Dr. Robert.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia. He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist
    59. Dr. Christopher L. Castro, a Professor of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona **
    — Dr. Arthur V. Chadwick, PhD, Geologist, dendrochronology (analyzing tree rings to determine past climate) lecturing, Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, Texas, U.S.A.
    — George V. Chilingar, PhD, Member, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow President, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, U.S.A. Section, Emeritus Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    61. Tom Chisholm Chief Meteorologist of WMTW ABC Portland, Maine
    62. Dr. John Christy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville and NASA
    63. Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax
    65. Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
    69. John Coleman, Meteorologist Founder of The Weather Channel
    71. Joseph Conklin Meteorologist
    72. Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.
    — Piers Corbyn, MSc (Physics (Imperial College London)), ARCS, FRAS, FRMetS, astrophysicist (Queen Mary College, London), consultant, founder WeatherAction long range forecasters, London, United Kingdom
    — Allan Cortese, meteorological researcher and spotter for the National Weather Service, retired computer professional, Billerica, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    76. Dr. William R. Cotton of the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University
    78. Richard S. Courtney, PhD, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC peer reviewer, Founding Member of the European Science and Environment Forum, UK
    — Susan Crockford, PhD (Zoology/Evolutionary Biology/Archaeozoology), Adjunct Professor (Anthropology/Faculty of Graduate Studies), University of Victoria, Victoria, British Colombia, Canada
    81. Grant Dade Texas TV’s KLTV, a member of both the American Meteorological Society and the National Weather Association
    82. Joseph D’Aleo served as the first Director of Meteorology at The Weather Channel and was the Chief Meteorologist at Weather Services International Corporation and served as chairman of the American Meteorological Society’s (AMS) Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting.
    83. Dr. Robert E. Davis, a Professor at University of Virginia, a former UN IPCC contributor and past president of the Association of American Geographers
    84. Luc Debontridder, Climatologist at the Belgium Weather Institute’s Royal Meteorological Institute (RMI)
    — Willem de Lange, MSc (Hons), DPhil (Computer and Earth Sciences), Senior Lecturer in Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, Hamilton, New Zealand
    85. David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts and Sciences, University of Oklahoma, U.S.
    — James DeMeo, PhD (University of Kansas 1986, Earth/Climate Science), now in Private Research, Ashland, Oregon, U.S.A.
    — James E Dent; B.Sc., FCIWEM, C.Met, FRMetS, C.Env., Independent Consultant, Member of WMO OPACHE Group on Flood Warning, Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
    — Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, Environmental Scientist and founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group
    — Dr. Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University in Omaha, Nebraska
    89. Dr. David Douglass professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Rochester
    91. Robert W. Durrenberger, PhD, former Arizona State Climatologist and President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor Emeritus of Geography, Arizona State University; Sun City, Arizona, U.S.A.
    — Freeman Dyson, professor of Physics at the Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton
    94. Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western Washington University, U.S.
    100. Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.
    102. Gary England, Meteorologist who pioneered the use of Doppler radar weather-forecasting
    103. Hans Erren, Doctorandus, geophysicist and climate specialist, Sittard, The Netherlands
    — Dr. Chris Essex, Professor of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario – focuses on underlying physics/math to complex climate systems.
    106. Bill Evans New York’s WABC-TV Senior Meteorologist
    107. Dr. Cal Evans, Geochemist a prominent researcher who has advised the Alberta Research Council, the Natural Sciences, and Engineering Research Council of Canada
    — Dr. David Evans, worked for the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005, building the carbon accounting model that Australia uses to track carbon in its biosphere for the purposes of the Kyoto Protocol. He is a mathematician and engineer, with six university degrees including a PhD from Stanford University.

    [Part 2 to follow]

    Max

  13. Bob_FJ

    [Part 2 of 3 parts]

    111. Dr. John T. Everett, a former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) administrator and UN IPCC lead author and reviewer
    — Sören Floderus, PhD (Physical Geography (Uppsala University)), coastal-environment specialization, Copenhagen, Denmark
    116. Dr. Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center
    — Dr. Patrick Frank, Chemist
    117. Stewart Franks, PhD, Associate Professor, Hydroclimatologist, University of Newcastle, Australia
    118. Dr. Oliver W. Frauenfeld, research scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences Division of Cryospheric and Polar Processes at the University of Colorado
    119. Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.
    120. Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen is the director of the Danish National Space Centre
    122. Ivan Frolov, the head of Russia’s Science and Research Institute of Arctic and Antarctic Regions
    — Gordon Fulks, PhD (Physics, University of Chicago), cosmic radiation, solar wind, electromagnetic and geophysical phenomena, Corbett, Oregon, U.S.A.
    124. Dr. Serge Galam, director of research at the National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS) and member of a laboratory of Ecole Polytechnique
    127. R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai’i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology, University of Hawaii at Manoa
    — Dr. David Gee, Geologist and chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, currently at Uppsala University in Sweden
    129. Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas; former director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey
    — Dr. Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Institute Professor at Rensselaer (RPI) in Troy, New York
    131. Dr. Robert Giegengack the chair of Department of Earth and Environmental Science at the University of Pennsylvania
    136. Dick Goddard Ohio meteorologists TV
    — Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adj Professor, Royal Institute of Technology (Mech, Eng.), Secretary General KTH International Climate Seminar 2006 and Climate analyst and member of NIPCC, Lidingö, Sweden
    — Stanley B. Goldenberg Atmospheric Scientist at the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA
    139. Dr. Mel Goldstein, a PhD Meteorologist on Connecticut’s TV News Channel 8
    140. Sergei Golubchikov, Vice President of Russia’s National Geocryological Foundation
    — Wayne Goodfellow, PhD (Earth Science), Ocean Evolution, Paleoenvironments, Adjunct Professor, Senior Research Scientist, University of Ottawa, Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    143. Brian van de Graaff Meteorologist TV
    — Thomas B. Gray, MS, Meteorology, Retired, USAF, Yachats, Oregon, U.S.A.
    144. Vincent Gray, PhD, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of ‘Climate Change 2001,’ Wellington, New Zealand
    145. Dr. William Gray, Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU)
    — Dr. Kenneth Green, Chief Scientist, Fraser Institute, Vancouver, BC – expert reviewer for the IPCC 2001 Working Group I science report.
    149. Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo – Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
    150. Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta
    152. Jeff Halblaub Senior Meteorologist of WSI Corporation
    — Charles B. Hammons, PhD (Applied Mathematics), systems/software engineering, modeling & simulation, design, Consultant, Coyle, Oklahoma, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of Physics at Princeton University and Former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy
    156. Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut
    — Ross Hays, Atmospheric Scientist, NASA Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility, Palestine, Texas, U.S.A.
    — Wilco Hazeleger, a senior scientist in the global climate research group at Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institure
    — James A. Heimbach, Jr., BA Physics (Franklin and Marshall College), Master’s and PhD in Meteorology (Oklahoma University), Prof. Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences (University of North Carolina at Asheville), Springvale, Maine, U.S.A.
    161. Dr. Ben Herman, past director of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics and Head of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona,
    — Dr. Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, researcher in the Institute of Geophysics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
    162. Dr. Martin Hertzberg, a retired Navy meteorologist with a PhD in physical chemistry
    — David Holland, member of the UK’s Institution of Engineering and Technology. Trained and qualified as an electrical engineer, he worked in the computer industry from 1970. He has followed the scientific debate over the human contribution to global warming for many years, and given evidence on it to the House of Lords and Stern Review.
    168. Art Horn, Meteorologist currently operating The ‘Art’ Of the Weather business
    169. Douglas V. Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland 2
    170. Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth
    — Ole Humlum, PhD, Professor, Department of Physical Geography, Institute of Geosciences, University of Oslo, Oslo, Norway
    — Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Climate Change
    173. Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, AZ, USA
    175. Dr. Olafur Ingolfsson, a professor from the University of Iceland
    — Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist and UN IPCC Scientist
    176. Yury Izrael, the director of Global Climate and Ecology Institute, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and UN IPCC Vice President,
    — Terri Jackson, MSc MPhil., Director, Independent Climate Research Group, Northern Ireland and London (Founder of the Energy Group at the Institute of Physics, London), U.K.
    — Albert F. Jacobs, Geol.Drs., P. Geol., Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    179. Craig James, Chief Meteorologist of a Michigan NBC TV affiliate
    — Dr. Hans Jelbring – Wind/Climate specialist, Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit, Stockholm University, Sweden. Currently, Manager Inventex Aqua Research Institute, Stockholm.
    181. Meteorologist Mark Johnson
    — Terrell Johnson, B.S. (Zoology), M.S. (Wildlife & Range Resources, Air & Water Quality), Principal Environmental Engineer, Certified Wildlife Biologist, Green River, Wyoming, U.S.A.
    — Bill Kappel, BS (Physical Science-Geology), BS (Meteorology), Storm Analysis, Climatology, Operation Forecasting, Vice President/Senior Meteorologist, Applied Weather Associates, LLC, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, U.S.A.
    186. Olavi Kärner, Ph.D., Research Associate, Dept. of Atmospheric Physics, Institute of Astrophysics and Atmospheric Physics, Toravere, Estonia
    193. Madhav Khandekar, PhD, former Research Scientist Environment Canada; Editor “Climate Research” (03-05); Editorial Board Member “Natural Hazards, IPCC Expert Reviewer 2007
    — Leonid F. Khilyuk, PhD, Science Secretary, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Professor of Engineering
    195. William Kininmonth M.Sc., M.Admin., former head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for Climatology
    197. Paul Knight Penn State Climatologist **
    198. Dr. James P. Koermer, a Professor of Meteorology and the director of the Meteorological Institute at Plymouth State University
    — Prof. Dr. Kirill Ya. Kondratyev, Academician, Counsellor RAS, Research Centre for Ecological Safety, Russian Academy of Sciences and Nansen International Environmental and Remote Sensing Centre, St.-Petersburg, Russia.
    — Jasper Kirkby, experimental particle physicist at CERN, author or co-author of some 250 scientific publications
    202. Dr. Gerhard Kramm of the Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska Fairbanks
    — Gary Kubat, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), professional meteorologist last 18 years, O’Fallon, Illinois, U.S.A
    204. Dr. George Kukla, a research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University 2
    — Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
    206. Dr. A.T.J. de Laat, who specialized in atmospheric composition and climate research at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
    — Dr. Peter Landesman, PhD in Mathematics from City College of New York, specialized in solving complex differential equations and author of The Mathematics of Global Warming
    208. Dr. Christopher W. Landsea NOAA’s National Hurricane Center who served as a UN IPCC
    209. Willem de Lange, PhD, Dept. of Earth and Ocean Sciences, School of Science and Engineering, Waikato University, New Zealand
    212. Douglas Leahey, PhD, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary, Canada
    213. David R. Legates, PhD, Director, Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware, U.S.
    — Jay Lehr, BEng (Princeton), PhD (environmental science and ground water hydrology), Science Director, The Heartland Institute, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.
    217. Marcel Leroux, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS
    — Edward Liebsch, BS (Earth Science & Chemistry), MS (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University), Senior Air Quality Scientist, HDR Inc., Maple Grove, MN, U.S.A.
    220. Richard S. Lindzen, PhD, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, U.S— Peter Link, BS, MS, PhD (Geology, Climatology), Geol/Paleoclimatology, retired, Active in Geol-paleoclimatology, Tulsa University and Industry, Evergreen, Colorado, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Philip Lloyd, Nuclear Physicist and Chemical Engineer and UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author
    — Dr. Craig Loehle is Principal Scientist with the National Council or Air and Stream Improvement (NCASI). His research interests include ecological modeling, landscape ecology, life history theory, and natural resource management. He is the author of over 100 scientific publications.
    223. A.J. Tom van Loon, PhD, Professor of Geology (Quaternary Geology), Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan, Poland; former President of the European Association of Science Editors
    226. Anthony R. Lupo, PhD, Associate Professor of Atmospheric Science, Dept. of Soil, Environmental, and Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri-Columbia, U.S.
    228. Horst Malberg, PhD, Professor for Meteorology and Climatology, Institut für Meteorologie, Berlin, Germany
    229. Rob Marciano CNN Meteorologist
    230. Dr. Richard Mackey Statistician authored a 2007 peer-reviewed study which found that the solar system regulates the earth’s climate. The paper was published August 17, 2007 in the Journal of Coastal Research
    233. Augusto Mangini of the University of Heidelberg in Germany 2
    — Björn Malmgren, PhD, Professor Emeritus in Marine Geology, Paleoclimate Science, Goteborg University, retired, Norrtälje, Sweden
    234. Galina Mashnich of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences,
    236. John Maunder, PhD, Climatologist, former President of the Commission for Climatology of the World Meteorological Organization (89-97), New Zealand 2
    237. Alister McFarquhar, PhD, international economist, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K. 2
    238. Peter McGurk, Senior Meteorologist with WSI Corporation, a provider of weather-driven business solutions to such clients as CNN, FOX, NBC, American Airlines, Delta, and FedEX
    243. Bill Meck, Chief Meteorologist for an NBC affiliate
    247. Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences and Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Canada
    248. Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, research professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia 2
    249. Dr. Daniel W. Miles, a former professor of physics who earned his PhD from the University of Utah
    — Ferenc Mark Miskolczi, PhD, atmospheric physicist, formerly of NASA’s Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Asmunn Moene, Former head of the National Forecasting Center, Meteorological Institute, Oslo, Norway
    254. H. Michael Mogil, a 30-year veteran of NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), who is certified by the American Metrological Society and currently owns the “How the Weatherworks” consulting firm
    261. Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.
    262. Dr. Dick Morgan, former director of Canada’s Met/Oceano Policy and Plans, a marine meteorologist and a climate researcher at both Exeter University and the Bedford Institute of Oceanography
    17. Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden
    263. Lubos Motl, PhD, physicist, former Harvard string theorist, Charles University, Prague, Czech Republic
    266. Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia’s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
    — Dr. Nasif Nahle, Scientific Research Director of Biology Cabinet Organization. Residencial El Roble, San Nicolas de los Garza, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
    — Robert Neff, M.S. (Meteorology, St Louis University), Weather Officer, USAF; Contractor support to NASA Meteorology Satellites, Retired, Camp Springs, Maryland, U.S.A.
    — John Nicol, PhD, Physics, (Retired) James Cook University, Chairman – Australian Climate Science Coalition, Brisbane, Australia
    269. Mark Nolan Meteorologist TV
    270. Gary Novak Microbiologist
    271. Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc., Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, former chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa, Canada 2
    272. James J. O’Brien, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Meteorology and Oceanography, Florida State University, U.S.
    — Peter Oliver, BSc (Geology), BSc (Hons, Geochemistry & Geophysics), MSc (Geochemistry), PhD (Geology), specialized in NZ quaternary glaciations, Geochemistry and Paleomagnetism, previously research scientist for the NZ Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
    274. Cliff Ollier, PhD, Professor Emeritus (Geology), Research Fellow, University of Western Australia
    277. Jim Ott, Meteorologist formerly of WTMJ-TV in Wisconsin
    279. Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem 2
    280. Morgan Meteorologist Palmer of Texas TV’s KLTV

    [Part 3 to follow]

    Max

  14. Bob_FJ

    [Part 3 of 3 parts]

    281. Garth W. Paltridge, PhD, atmospheric physicist, Emeritus Professor and former Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
    282. R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Canada
    — James A. Peden, Atmospheric physicist formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
    284. Al Pekarek, PhD, Associate Professor of Geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, Minnesota, U.S.
    285. Dr. Roger Pielke, Sr., presently senior scientist at the University of Colorado in Boulder
    286. Ian Plimer, PhD, Professor of Geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide and Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia
    — Dr. Roger Pocklington, Ocean/Climate Consultant, F.C.I.C., Researcher – Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Nova Scotia.
    — Daniel Joseph Pounder, BS (Meteorology, University of Oklahoma), MS (Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign); Weather Forecasting, Meteorologist, WILL AM/FM/TV, the public broadcasting station of the University of Illinois, Urbana, U.S.A.
    287. Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology, Sedimentology, University of Saskatchewan, Canada
    290. Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology
    — Tom Quirk, MSc (Melbourne), D Phil, MA (Oxford), SMP (Harvard), Member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Australian Climate Science Coalition, Member Board Institute of Public Affairs, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    293. VK Raina, India’s leading Glaciologist
    294. Dr. Denis G. Rancourt, Professor of Physics and an Environmental Science researcher at the University of Ottawa,
    296. Bernie Rayno, Senior Meteorologist with AccuWeather
    298. William E. Reifsnyder Meteorologist Forestry
    299. Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)
    306. Erich Roeckner of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology
    308. R.G. Roper, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology, U.S
    — Curt Rose, BA, MA (University of Western Ontario), MA, PhD (Clark University), Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Studies and Geography, Bishop’s University, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
    312. Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, B.C., Canada 2.
    313. Arthur T. “Terry” Safford III, Meteorologist a retired Lt Col. of the U.S. Air Force
    319. Mark Scirto Chief Meteorologist of Texas TV’s KLTV,
    322. Bruce Schwoegler, former U.S. Navy meteorologist and Boston broadcast meteorologist
    325. Tom V. Segalstad, PhD, (Geology/Geochemistry), Head of the Geological Museum and Associate Professor of Resource and Environmental Geology, University of Oslo, Norway
    326. Dr. Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    327. Gary D. Sharp, PhD, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, CA, U.S.
    328. Dr. Nir Shaviv, one of Israel’s top, young, award-winning scientists
    329. Glen Shaw, a Professor of Physics at the Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska Fairbanks
    — Dr. Joanne Simpson, Atmospheric Scientist and PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
    336. S. Fred Singer, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia and former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service 4
    — Dr. Vaclav Smil, FRSC, Distinguished Professor of Geography; specialization in climate and CO2, University of Manitoba.
    — Hajo Smit, Meteorologist and former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
    — Dr. G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s CSIRO
    341. Dr. Joe Sobel of Accuweather, winner of the American Meteorological Society 2005 Award for Broadcaster of the Year
    342. Dr. Willie Soon Harvard-Smithsonian Center Astrophysicist.
    343. Dr. Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences 2
    344. James Spann Meteorologist of Alabama ABC TV
    345. Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville, U.S. 3
    346. Chief Meteorologist Karl Spring of Duluth, Minnesota, who is certified by both the American Meteorological Society and the National Weather Association
    — Walter Starck, PhD (Biological Oceanography), marine biologist (specialization in coral reefs and fisheries), author, photographer, Townsville, Australia
    350. Bill Steffen Meteorologist of Grand Rapids, Michigan
    351. Herb Stevens, Meteorologist one of the original meteorologists at The Weather Channel
    352. Dr. Hans von Storch, the Director of Institute for Coastal Research of the GKSS Research Centre, a professor at the Meteorological Institute of the University of Hamburg (deceased)
    — Arlin Super, PhD (Meteorology), former Professor of Meteorology at Montana State University, retired Research Meteorologist, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Saint Cloud, Minnesota, U.S.A.
    — Dr. Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London 354. Henrik Svensmark Danish National Space Centre
    — Dr. Gordon Swaters, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University ofAlberta
    356. Dr. Elwynn Taylor, Professor of Meteorology at Iowa State University and a former project scientist with the National Aeronautics and Space Administratio**
    357. Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists
    — Dr. Peter Taylor, environmental science analyst (formerly for UN), author of “Chill – an assessment of global warming theory”
    360. Hendrik Tennekes, PhD, former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
    363. Tim Thornton, who holds degrees in Meteorology and Computer Science, pub -lishes the website “The Global Warming Heretic.
    — Frank Tipler, PhD, Professor of Mathematical Physics, astrophysics, Tulane University, New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.A
    — Edward M. Tomlinson, MS (Meteorology), Ph.D. (Meteorology, University of Utah), President, Applied Weather Associates, LLC (leader in extreme rainfall storm analyses),
    — Dr. Eduardo Tonni, Paleontologist of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata
    369. Anton Uriarte, a professor of Physical Geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain
    371. Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria
    372. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD, geologist and paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand
    373. Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa
    —Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
    374. Dr. Chris Walcek is a professor at the University at Albany in NY and a Senior Research Associate at the Atmospheric Sciences Research Center
    — Gösta Walin, PhD in Theoretical physics, Professor emeritus in oceanography, Earth Science Center, Göteborg University, Göteborg, Sweden
    378. Dr. Fred Ward, who earned his PhD in Meteorology from MIT and is a former meteorologist for Boston TV
    380. Anthony Watts, former meteorologist for KHSL-TV, a CBS-TV affiliate
    381. Charles L. Wax, PhD (physical geography: climatology, LSU), State Climatologist – Mississippi, past President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor, Department of Geosciences, Mississippi State University, U.S.A.
    382. Dan Webster, Ohio meteorologists
    — Dr. Bruce West, A U.S Army Chief Scientist
    — Forese-Carlo Wezel, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Stratigraphy (global and Mediterranean geology, mass biotic extinctions and paleoclimatology), University of Urbino, Urbino, Italy
    385. Chuck Wiese Meteorologist
    389. Kevin Williams Meteorologist of the New York based WEATHER-TRACK and Chief Meteorologist at WHEC-TV in Rochester
    390. Dr. Richard C. Willson of Columbia University’s Center for Climate Systems Research
    391. Dr. Ian Wilson of the University of Southern Queensland, Australia, specializes in statistical analysis and astrophysics research, and was a former operations astronomer at the Hubble Space Telescope Institute in Baltimore, MD
    393. Boris Winterhalter, PhD, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland
    396. David E. Wojick, PhD, P.Eng., UN IPCC Expert Reviewer, energy consultant, Virginia, U.S.
    — Dr. Rafael Wust, Professor Marine Geology/Sedimentology, James Cook University
    — Dr. Miklós Zágoni, Physicist and environmental researcher
    404. Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics at the University of Bologna in Italy
    — Stan Zlochen, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), USAF (retired), Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A.
    405. Dr. Jeff Zweerink of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA)

    Interestingly, I once challenged our friend, PeterM, to show that a “vast majority” of scientists endorsed the “dangerous AGW” premise, by providing me a list of at least 3 times this many names of “qualified” scientists and meteorologists who had stated that they support the premise that AGW is a serious threat.

    Obviously he could not provide such a list (because it does not exist).

    Max

  15. PeterM

    As requested from you many times, let’s get this discussion back to the “science” supporting your premise that AGW has been a major cause for past warming and represents a serious potential threat, a.k.a. the “dangerous AGW” hypothesis.

    I am still waiting for you to show empirical scientific data supporting this hypothesis.

    So far you have been unable (or unwilling) to do so.

    Is this because such scientific data do not exist?

    How do you account for the fact that after tens of billions of dollars have been put into climate research to date (almost exclusively to support the DAGW claims) no one has as yet come up with such scientific evidence?

    As a trained “scientist” yourself, you must have thought about this. As an applied scientist myself, I have given it a lot of thought.

    What are your thoughts on this question?

    [This is NOT a trick question.]

    Max

  16. Max

    I see that Dr Hal Lewis has joined the ‘Global warming policy foundation’.

    http://www.thegwpf.org/who-we-are/academic-advisory-council.html

    The above is a list of people on their board. I don’t know if there are any here that aren’t already on your own excellent well referenced list?

    I know a number of them on your list and you could not find more sane, rational and scientific people.

    I obviously missed Peters considered reply to my query on his take on the effect of CFC’s on CAGW. Could you point me to it please?

    And also can you reference where he must have commented on the news that Science Daily were less than scientific in their reporting of the sea level story. Sea levels ARE lower today than in the Roman Holocene and the MWP.

    I have also somehow missed his comment on the Giss figures which show the great numbers of places that have been cooling for a statistically relevant number of years (30 or more up to today)in direct contradiction to IPCC’s claims. My missing his reply on this is particularly disappointing seeing as there was both an article AND a google earth animation on this.

    I also expect that we have both missed his extensive replies to your repeated requests for empirical evidence suppoprting the AGW hypothesis.

    Tonyb

  17. The tobacco lobby were fond of these sort of lists which were possibly the brainchild of Dr Frederick Seitz, and his associates. Seitz’s early career was actually quite illustrious. However shortly before he retired, Seitz began working as a consultant for the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, ‘advising’ their ‘medical research’ program until 1988.

    Later academic studies of tobacco industry influence concluded that Seitz “played a key role… in helping the tobacco industry produce uncertainty concerning the health impacts of smoking.”

    In 1984 the same Frederick Seitz was the founding chairman of the George C. Marshall Institute, and was its chairman until 2001. The Institute was founded to argue for Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative, but “in the 1990s it branched out to become one of the leading think-tanks trying to debunk the science of climate change.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Seitz

    So what is it with you right-wing guys that makes you think along these lines? You just don’t seem to have any problem with lining up with the big corporations whenever their profits are threatened. AGW is just the latest in a series of issues. Tobacco, CFCs, Pesticides like DDT, SO2 and pollution of all forms. Every time the story is the same that there is no real problem! These big corporations know there is a problem all right but the one that concerns them most is the potential problem of their reduced profits. That’s the key issue every time !

    Does this mean that every climate sceptic/denier is in the pay of Big Oil? Well no, of course, it doesn’t. Anymore than every smoker who didn’t want to believe that their health was at risk was in the pay of big tobacco. However, they looked to people like Dr Seitz and believed the research that he was supporting were genuine. Just like you look to Wattsupwithat, Icecap, the CEI, the George Marshall Institute etc. If the internet had existed 20 years ago we’d have had websites galore telling us “not to listen so called experts” who were scaremongering about the effects of cigarette smoking. It was all cooked up by politicians who were only interested in justifying ultra high taxes on tobacco products. We’d be told to use our common sense and that it was all a hoax!

    Of course, you do need to use your common sense, but I doubt you will.

  18. PeterM

    Interesting op-ed on the tobacco industry.

    But, as you fully know, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the ongoing debate on the issue of AGW – it is simply a sidetrack to avoid facing your real dilemma: the fact that there is no empirical scientific evidence in support of the hypothesis that AGW has been a major cause of recent warming or that it is a serious potential threat.

    The list I posted at the request of Bob_FJ is simply a list of 280 qualified individuals who have gone on record that they do not support the “dangerous AGW” premise (despite all the known pressure there is out there to “toe the party line”).

    You once wrote that the support for DAGW among the scientific community was overwhelming, however when I asked you to supply a similar list of 3x as many qualified individuals who support this premise, you were unable to do so.

    I’ll admit that the argument of “overwhelming support among the scientific community for AGW” is a meaningless one (but it is one that you have used in the past).

    It’s all about the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE supporting the DAGW hypothesis (not the number of scientists or scientific organizations who do).

    So we get back to my question to you in 2215:

    How do you account for the fact that after tens of billions of dollars have been put into climate research to date (almost exclusively to support the DAGW claims) no one has as yet come up with such scientific evidence?

    Awaiting your response.

    Max

  19. TonyB

    You are right.

    Peter has been a bit sluggish in responding to specific posts from you, me and other bloggers dealing with scientific questions related to AGW.

    Discussing the “science” is apparently not his strength or first order of priority, despite the fact that he, himself, apparently is a scientist (physics), so should be interested in this aspect.

    He seems to prefer drifting off into socio-political discussions, “headcounts” of scientific societies that have given some sort of nod of approval to the AGW premise or irrelevant comparisons with the “tobacco industry”, the “mining industry”, “big oil”, etc.

    I have now asked him to respond specifically to a question regarding the “science” behind DAGW, and I sincerely hope that he will do so.

    (But I’m not holding my breath…)

    Max

  20. Max, Reur 2212/¾ (Complaint to the ABC)
    Thanks your excellent 3-part list
    Here are 3 snippets from two separate parts of “The Science Show :

    Part 1: Here are three extracts from the transcript of audio from “the Science Show”, 21, August, 2010
    Kim Carr; Topic: the Eureka Prizes:

    [1]…And of course, I [Kim, a politician] am thinking here about the climate change debate or what passes for the climate change debate and those who deny it in defiance of the overwhelming evidence. I am thinking about those who malign the scientists who report the evidence. The real danger in these partisan attacks is that they may undermine the legitimacy of all scientific endeavour…
    …Yet it is equally clear that the climate change deniers have sown seeds of uncertainty and doubt in people’s minds, and there is just no shortage of survey data to bear this out. That’s why it is so important that we set about building a community consensus on climate change and the action that’s actually needed to address it. It is also why the friends of science must never shy from defending its heritage, its methods and its results…
    …That doesn’t mean we can’t question things. We can and we should. What it does mean is that we do not have to pretend the Earth might after all be flat. We do not have to accord superstition and wishful thinking the same status as science. This is much more than fairness requires and much more than reason permits…

    Just a few points:
    a) This rant (abbreviated) is somewhat off topic to the awards.
    b) Robyn Williams is a science journalist with a bachelors degree in science. He should not have included it, or should have qualified it in some way. He was silent.
    c) One would expect him to know that there are many scientists that do not agree with these sentiments.
    d) Quality scientific websites such as CA & WUWT are high traffic, and it would be OK to describe them as sceptical but definitely not in the sentiments quoted, by the ABC.

    Part 2: From the Transcript of “The science of climate change“, 21, August 2010

    There is so much bias here by Robyn Williams, Ian Allison, & Mike Raupach, that for brevity I’ll limit this to just two points:

    [2a]“…The blue dots here are all measurements, they match up almost perfectly with the ice core record, so we have a record going back here 2,000 years but overall 800,000 years to show us that past history. And this level of CO2 we have now at over 380 parts per million is greater than any concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere for 800,000 years…”

    First of all, ice-core data are not measurements in the accepted scientific meaning but are proxy inferences obtained from chemical analysis of ancient trapped air bubbles, in which there are many uncertainties (e.g. insert paper ). However, that is a relatively minor issue because they inexcusably make no mention of a parallel ice-core proxy, based on an oxygen isotope, which infers temperature at the time of ice deposition. These data are clearly less popular for these authors because embarrassingly it shows that there is a CO2 response to temperature, lagging by several hundred years, as revealed in the more recent higher resolution data. (e.g. temperature goes up and then several hundred years later, the CO2 level goes up, and vice versa, irrefutably)

    Part 2b follows as a larger item

  21. Part 2b continuing on the ABC’s “The Science Show”

    [2b]“… one of the projections of climate models is that we see a band of drying across the southern part of the [Oz] continent, in south Western Australia and Victoria and extending roughly up to the latitude of the ACT. That is a predicted consequence of climate change…”

    Oh really? Could perhaps Robyn comment on these rainfall graphs published by our BOM?

    Or, how about this first photo: “Dry river bed of the Murray river at Myall near Kerang, Victoria, 1914. During the Federation drought it stopped flowing for about 6 months.” Or, secondly, upstream at Mildura, camels crossing. Nowadays of course, this is the realm of houseboats, and deaths in boating and water sports reportedly exceed that on the roads in the region.

    Presumably Robyn does study the science so that he is aware of what is out there?

    And, on a more romantic but highly relevant note, check out that magnificent poem of 1904 by Dorothea MacKellar, describing horrible drought, a decade before the accumulative disaster of 1914/15! (first verse is about England)
    http://www.lancescoular.com/my-country-by-dorothea-mackellar.html

  22. latest peer reviewed paper from scafetta just published shows 60& of warming since 1970 is due to natural climate oscillations. (so no surpise there) This is his complete paper.

    http://www.crrel.usace.army.mil/techpub/CRREL_Reports/reports/NSR.pdfhttp://www.fel.duke.edu/%7Escafetta/pdf/scafetta-JSTP2.pdf

  23. Bob #2221

    Some really good photos and observations in those posts.

    Have you read the diaries of Watkin Tench? I posted this previously when Australia had one of its regular heatwaves (which of course was unprecedented despite all the evidence to the contrary).

    Your papers talked of bats dropping from the sky due to the heat.This from Adelaide in 1790

    “But even this heat was judged to be far exceeded in the latter end of the following February, when the north-west wind again set in, and blew with great violence for three days. At Sydney, it fell short by one degree of what I have just recorded: but at Rose Hill, it was allowed, by every person, to surpass all that they had before felt, either there or in any other part of the world. Unluckily they had no thermometer to ascertain its precise height. It must, however, have been intense, from the effects it produced. An immense flight of bats driven before the wind, covered all the trees around the settlement, whence they every moment dropped dead or in a dying state, unable longer to endure the burning state of the atmosphere. Nor did the ‘perroquettes’, though tropical birds, bear it better. The ground was strewn with them in the same condition as the bats.”

    tonyb

  24. Max and TonyB,

    In an ideal world, you would be right. All questions would be answered according to the merits or otherwise of the scientific evidence. However, in an ideal world I wouldn’t have to battle away with climate change deniers who by their own free admission accuse climate scientists of producing distorted results designed to bolster the arguments for Governments increasing taxation.

    Your ultimate argument will always be that the scientific data is crook or forged. Its difficult to argue with that so what’s the point?

    As you’ve also freely said “the ‘science’ is simply a ‘side show’ to justify the ‘main event’.” The main event being to undermine the scientific case by exaggerating the doubt and minimising the consensus.

    That tactic ultimately didn’t work for the pro-tobacco lobby although it did slow the process of getting the health message across in the developed world. That process is still continuing in less affluent countries and is still being resisted every step of the way by of course by the tobacco industry. Ultimately it won’t work on the global warming issue either but it probably will slow down the process similarly – which is what you want of course.

  25. Pete,

    In a free society, I can choose to heed the advice of the “experts” and not to use tobacco products.

    In a society based upon your philosophy, I am compelled/forced to adhere to the doctrine of your “experts”.

    (Although I doubt the word or concept of freedom is something that you’d be familiar with……..)

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